Standortlösungen für die Fakultät für Sozialwissenschaften

Für die Fakultät für Sozialwissenschaften gibt es zwei Standort-Optionen:

1. Verbleib des Studienbereichs “Soziale Arbeit und Pädagogik der Kindheit” am Campus Rastpfuhl; Verbleib des Studienbereichs “Pflege und Gesundheit” am Campus Alt-Saarbrücken
pro: gute (Campus Alt-Saarbrücken) bzw. sehr gute (Campus Rastpfuhl) ÖPNV-Anbindung; Gebäude teilweise für mobilitätseingeschränkte Personen geeignet; Nähe zu Kooperationspartnern im Stadtgebiet, Nähe zu Wohn- und Kinderbetreuungsorten.
contra: Raumknappheit; maroder Zustand der Gebäude am Campus Rastpfuhl, provisorische und wenig nutzergeeignete Räume und Büros am Campus Alt-Saarbrücken; ggf. höhere Mietkosten am Campus Rastpfuhl; Fakultät ist auf zwei Standorte verteilt.

2. Umzug der Studienbereiche “Soziale Arbeit und Pädogik der Kindheit” und “Pflege und Gesundheit” nach St. Ingbert (Karlsberggebäude/Ludwigsschule)
pro: Fakultät wird zusammengeführt, Raum für Weiterentwicklung der Fakultät; bessere Parkplatzsituation, gute ÖPNV-Anbindung, kooperative Grundeinstellung der Stadt St. Ingbert in allen Belangen.
contra: zusätzlicher logistischer Aufwand für Studierende und Beschäftigte.

Aktuell in der Bearbeitung: beide Gebäude müssen für mobilitätseingeschränkte Studierende und Beschäftigte und gemäß Brandschutz- und Sicherheitsbestimmungen ertüchtigt werden; Turnhalle der Ludwigsschule muss in Hörsaal umgebaut werden; für die Bibliothek müssen ggf. Raumaufteilungen verändert werden; Mensa muss optimiert werden; die Anbindung an das IT-Wissenschaftsnetz muss erfolgen.

Die Hochschulleitung hält den Umzug nach St. Ingbert für die bessere Lösung für Studierende, Beschäftigte und für die Weiterentwicklung der gesamten Hochschule; sie versichert, dass der Umzug nur stattfindet, wenn die Gebäude wie oben aufgeführt ausgebaut sind und eine Hochschulinfrastruktur realisiert ist (Bibliothek, Mensa, Anbindung des Standortes an das IT-Hochschulnetz, großer Hörsaal (bis zu 150 Personen), geeignete Arbeits-, Seminar- und Vorlesungsräume).

Die Umbauten in der Ludwigsschule werden von der Stadt St. Ingbert auf eigene Kosten durchgeführt.

Ein kurzer Hinweis noch: Die htw saar kann Standort-Entscheidung nicht autonom treffen; aber sie kann sich für einen Standort aussprechen. Die Entscheidung liegt letztlich bei der Landesregierung bzw. dem zuständigen Fachministerium, der Staatskanzlei.

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  9. “jk on 10. Februar 2015 at 08:47 said:
    Zur Planungszeit des Hochhauses gab es ~600 Studierende in der Fakultät für Sozialwissenschaften und ~200 Studierende in der Architektur, zusammen mit den Verwaltungsteilen ca. 1000 Personen. Ihre Erinnerung trügt Sie daher nicht. Atuell müssen wir Lösungen für 800 und 280 Studierenden zzgl. Beschäftigte finden, in etwa 1200 Personen. […] Aktualisierte Antwort, 10.2.15, 9:24 Uhr”

    Die Planung darf man, nach Ihrer Darstellung, als, gelinde gesagt, desolat bezeichnen.
    Innerhalb der zwei Jahre, die das Haus des Wissens jetzt also nicht bezogen werden konnte, ist es bereits um 20% zu klein, obwohl sie in der 1200 Personen-Rechnung die ursprünglich mit angedachte Verwaltung (ca. 155 Personen) schon abgezogen haben?

    • Im übrigen brauche ich dazu keine Erinnerung, die mich nicht trügt. Die Aussage der 1000 Personen stammt aus den Medien (und den Bekanntmachungen der htw saar).

      • Mit den Planungen für das Hochhaus wurde 2006 begonnen. Dass die Hochschule sich so entwickelt, konnte nicht vorhergesehen werden. Darüber hinaus war noch ein Gebäude 10 geplant, das Teile der oben genannten Personen aufgenommen hätte. Ich sehe keinen Sinn darin, das jetzt alles mit Ihnen durchzukauen, weil alle Annahmen und damals aktuellen Zahlen inzwischen längst überholt sind und durch diese Diskussion kein Mehrwert für die aktuellen Probleme geschaffen wird.

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  10. Wie sieht es eigentlich mit einer Kooperation mit der Universität des Saarlandes aus? Könnte man mit der Fakultät SoWi und den Architekten vielleicht kurzzeitig dort unterkommen bis die Fehler beim Hochhaus ausgemerzt sind? Das wäre wenigstens nicht so weit wie St. Ingbert und noch Nahe der Stadtmitte. Außerdem wäre dann immer noch der “Zwang” da nach einem neuen Standort zu suchen und wir würden nicht Gefahr laufen in St. Ingbert zu versauern…

    • Sie brauchen keine Sorge zu haben, was ein “versauern” in St. Ingbert angeht. Die Hochschulleitung hat mehrfach verbindlich zugesagt, dass ein Umzug nach St. Ingbert, wenn er kommt, eine Zwischenlösung für fünf Jahre ist.
      Ich bin mir sicher, dass das Gebäudemanagement, die Staatskanzlei und die Hochschulleitung bei der Suche nach Zwischenstandorten alle Möglichkeiten in Saarbrücken ausgelotet hat. Haben Sie Kenntnis von leerstehenden Gebäuden an der Universität, die 1200 Personen aufnehmen könnten?

        • Wir haben ca. 800 Studierende in der Fakultät für Sozialwissenschaften, 280 im Studienbereich Architektur und 65 Beschäftigte in beiden Bereichen, zusammen 1145 Personen, die untergebracht werden müssen.Gar nicht mal so schlecht geschätzt mit den 1200 ;)

            • Zur Planungszeit des Hochhauses gab es ~600 Studierende in der Fakultät für Sozialwissenschaften und ~200 Studierende in der Architektur, zusammen mit den Verwaltungsteilen ca. 1000 Personen. Ihre Erinnerung trügt Sie daher nicht. Atuell müssen wir Lösungen für 800 und 280 Studierenden zzgl. Beschäftigte finden, in etwa 1200 Personen. Womit wir wieder am Anfang der Diskussion wären: welches Gebäude bietet diesen Platz?
              Aktualisierte Antwort, 10.2.15, 9:24 Uhr

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  11. Frage: das hier sieht nach einer Beschwerdeplattform aus. Wird sich hier je jemand äußern, der auch zuständig ist für unsere Kritik?

    • Es ist in erster Linie eine Informationsplattform, bietet aber die Möglichkeit des Austauschs über die Kommentarfunktion. Dass es vornehmlich für Kritik genutzt wird ist, frei nach Wowereit auch gut so und liegt vor allem in der Thematik begründet.
      Was für eine Äußerung erwarten Sie denn?

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  12. Ich persönlich empfinde den Mehraufwand, den ich und mit mir 600 andere, leisten müssen um nach St. Ingbert zu kommen schon als ein gewaltiges Manko.
    Die Hochschulleitung sollte sich darüber im Klaren sein, dass alle Aktivitäten, die soziales Engagement neben dem Studium betreffen mehr oder minder eingestellt beziehungsweise zurück gefahren würden. Ist das im Interesse der Fakultät ? Ich nehme mir frech heraus diese Frage mit “Nein” zu beantworten. Besonders da es schade wäre, wenn die Abendvorlesungen nicht mehr gut besucht werden könnten weil die Zeit dafür einfach nicht mehr da ist.
    Wie ließe sich dieser Umstand den mit der an uns gestellten Forderung nach Engagement und Weiterbildung vereinen ?

    Mit Verlaub mir erscheint es, als würde man nun endlich die Gelegenheit warhnehmen die Sozialwissenschaften als das “ungeliebte Kind” der HTW (warum eigentlich nicht HTSW ?) nach St. Ingebert abzuschieben beziehungsweise ins Internat, wenn man bei der Metapher bleiben möchte.

    • Die Standortsuche für die Fakultät für Sozialwissenschaften und die Schule für Architektur Saar hat einen ganz einfache Grund: beide sollten in das Hochhaus einziehen. Da das für beide nicht möglich ist, sucht man nach Alternativen.

      • Klar muss man jetzt nach Alternativen suchen, da Einzug ins neue Hochhaus momentan nicht möglich ist. Aber in St. Ingbert oder Göttelborn nach Alternativen zu suchen ist einfach eine Zumutung. Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es in Saarbrücken keine Alternativen gibt für die Sozialwissenschaften und die Architekten.

      • well, i actually love autumn and i’m terribly missing autumn in Bucharest, but i have the ‘ going down mood’ in spring time, and i had the Holden Caulfield syndrome when i was an uneedgraduatr, so it will pass, just hang in there :)

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  13. Auch ich bin gegen einen Umzug nach St. Ingbert!
    Eine Abschiebung aus der Landeshauptstadt Saarbrücken bedeutet für uns ALLE weniger Bildungs- und Lebensqualität!
    Ich selbst bin extra für das Studium nach Saarbrücken gezogen und arbeite nebenbei um mein Studium und meinen Lebensunterhalt zu finanzieren. Natürlich habe ich auch ein Privatleben und versuche alles in einem sehr engen Zeitraum zu bewältigen. Ein Umzug bedeutet für mich persönlich eine totale Umstellung meines Lebens, d.h. weniger Privatleben, keine Zeit für gesellschaftliches Engagement, weniger arbeiten, weniger Geld. Die Folgen wären nur noch Unzufriedenheit und kein erfolgreiches Studium.
    Abgesehen von meinen persönlichen Nachteilen wären viele andere Studierende so schwer von einem Umzug nach St. Ingbert betroffen, dass sie nicht weiter studieren könnten. Dazu kommt noch, dass unsere Fakultät der Sozialwissenschaften an Attraktivität verlieren würde und die Folgen wären viel weniger neue Studierende! Auch für viele Gastdozenten wäre St. Ingbert kein attraktiver Standort mehr, die jedes Semester eingeladen werden und uns sehr wichtige, interessante Vorträge an Abendvorlesungen anbieten.
    Die Fakultät der Sozialwissenschaften, mit Studierenden und Mitarbeitern, hätte durch den Umzug erhebliche Nachteile und das sollte nicht das Ziel unserer Hochschule sein, und auch nicht der Landesregierung.
    Für den Erhalt und der Verbesserung, der Qualität unserer Bildung, halte ich es für notwendig nach einer besseren Lösung in Saarbrücken Ausschau zu halten.

  14. “Zur Bildung gehört Urbanität, und ihr geometrischer Ort ist die Sprache. Keinem Menschen ist es vorzuhalten, dass er vom Lande stammt, aber auch keiner dürfte daraus sich ein Verdienst machen und dabei beharren; wem die Emanzipation von der Provinz mißglückte, der steht zur Bildung exterritorial. Die Pflicht zur Entprovinzialisierung anstelle der hilflosen Nachahmung dessen, was man für gebildet hält, wäre von denen, die andere etwas lehren wollen, mit Nachdruck dem eigenen Bewußtsein zuzueignen”
    (Adorno, Theodor W. (1971). Erziehung zur Mündigkeit. 1. Aufl., Suhrkamp Taschenbuch 11. Frankfurt: Suhrkamp Verlag. S. 43)

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  15. Fakt ist doch, dass alle Studierenden sich mit dem damaligen Hintergrundwissen →Standort Saarbrücken eingeschrieben haben .
    Ein Umzug nach St Ingbert würde für viele (auch für mich) einen viel längeren Weg bedeuten. Diejenigen die sich eine Wohnung gesucht haben müssten nun erneut auf die Suche gehen, was mit viel Zeit und Geld verbunden ist oder pendeln.
    Die Hochschule ist nun mal keine Campus-Hochschule. Das war vorher auch nicht der Fall. Auch wenn es schön wäre dass alle zusammen sind, ist das meiner Meinung nach kein triftiges Argument aus der UNIVERSITÄTSSTADT SAARBRÜCKEN wegzuziehen.

    Dass diese Diskussion und die geplante Abschiebung keine gute Werbung ist, ist wohl klar.

    Ich persönlich bin sehr enttäuscht von der Hochschule, was Organisation, Kommunikation und TECHNIK (hTw) betrifft.

    • Ich denke, dass wir mit diesem Blog und später dem Forum etwas in Sachen Kommunikation tun. Vielleicht legt sich diesbezüglich Ihre Enttäuschung etwas.

      Nichts ist beständiger als der Wandel – was gerade in dieser Thematik bedeutet, dass es immer wieder neue Informationen, Lösungsansätze etc. geben wird. Das hat es bisher – und macht es immer noch – schwer, alle zu informieren. Wenn wir alle anderen Möglichkeiten, die sich als nicht umsetzbar herausgestellt haben, direkt kommuniziert hätten, hätten wir mehr verwirrt als informiert.

      Die Idee eines oder zweier Standorte für die htw saar ist Ausgangspunkt für die Baumaßnahme Hochhaus und Zentralgebäude gewesen. Wir wären töricht, würden wir an der Idee weniger Standorte nicht festhalten. Wir verstehen uns als Hochschule in der Stadt und plädieren daher für einen starken Campus Alt-Saarbrücken und Rotenbühl. Nichtsdestotrotz müssen wir die Lehre sicherstellen. Und das bedeutet, dass man verschiedene Optionen ausarbeiten muss und irgendwann (hoffentlich bald) eine Entscheidung treffen muss. In dieser Prozessphase befinden wir uns.

      Ganz nebenbei und ganz persönlich: Ich wünschte mir, die Stadt würde “Universitätsstadt” irgendwann mal mit “Hochschulstadt” austauschen.

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  16. “contra: zusätzlicher logistischer Aufwand für Studierende und Beschäftigte.”

    Das steht da so, als wäre es leicht zu vernachlässigen, deswegen führe ich das gerne weiter aus!
    Dieser zusätzliche logistische Aufwand hat täglich einen Umfang von etwa 1,5 Stunden. Rechnen wir das mal 5, kommen wir auf 7,5 Stunden pro Woche. Das sind z.B. 75% meiner wöchentlichen Stundenzahl, die ich in meinem Nebenjob verbringe, um mir eine Wohnung in Saarbrücken finanzieren zu können – wohlgemerkt um näher an meiner Hochschule zu wohnen.

    Die Ablehnung dieses “zusätzlichen logistischen Aufwand” hat absolut nichts damit zu tun dass der gemeine Student nicht willig ist, seine Körpermasse nach St. Ingbert zu bewegen, das ist einfach ne Menge Zeit die uns geraubt wird und die man um ein ordentliches Studium abzuschließen, bitter nötig hat!

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  17. Ich persönlich kann sowohl Pro’s als auch Contra’s größtenteils nachvollziehen.

    Aber leider gibt es einige Punkte, welche negativ Stimmen:

    1. Der Umstand, das für viele Saarbrücken als Studiumsstandort WESENTLICH ist. entweder aus dem Grund der zentralen Lage, dem kulturellen Angeboten, der gute Infrastruktur, etc. Ob nicht die Atraktivität des Studiums der Sozialen Arbeit / Pädagogik der Kindheit gefärdet ist, weil die Standort so “abgelegen ist.

    2. Alle HTW-Campuse soll zusammengeführt werden? Warum dann aber erst alles nach St. Ingbert verschiffen? Diese Maßnahme ist da doch etwas Kontraproduktiv und wirklich sehr kostspielig, AUCH wenn die Stadt St. Ingbert mitzieht.

    3. Ich bekomm irgendwo das Gefühl nicht los, als ob die Umzugsaktion mit 600 und Mehr Studierenden / Mitarbeitern einen wirtschaftlichen Hintergrund FÜR die Stadt St. Ingbert hat (Für die dortige Belebung der Innenstadt, Gastronomie, etc.) , auch wenn da keiner was sagt. Würde ja offiziel nie ausgesprochen werden. Aber ist ganz offen mein Gefühl.

    Desweiteren find ich den Informationsfluss für WICHTIGE Informationen echt ne Katastrophe!!! :(

  18. Ein möglicher Standort St. Ingbert stellt eine Marginalisierung der Fakultät SoWi dar.
    Saarbrücken hat, als Landeshauptstadt, ein im Saarland unerreichtes Angebot an kulturellen Einrichtungen und Veranstaltungen. Die Möglichkeiten der sozialen Teilhabe werden somit massiv eingeschränkt. Hinzu kommt ein ebenfalls schlechterer Zugang zu Kooperationspartner in Praxis und Forschung.

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  19. Ich kann nicht nachvollziehen, dass eine Fachhochschule aus der Hauptstadt ihres Bundeslandes wegziehen soll..!

    Außerdem sind die Umbauarbeiten mit Sicherheit nicht mal eben so gemacht. Das wird noch ne lange Zeit dauern und anstatt da jede Menge Geld reinzupumpen (für angesagte 5 Jahre) kann man auch noch nach einem anderen Grundstück ausschau halten, da man ja eh noch warten muss, bis alles fertig ist.

    Ich bin definitiv gegen den Standort St. Ingbert. HTW in SB!

  20. Ich kann den positiven Gründen für den Standort St. Ingbert nur zustimmen. Da ich die Ludwigschule persönlich kenne, halte ich dieses Gebäude nach ein paar Umbaumaßnahmen (die sicherlich nicht den Rahmen sprengen) für ein geeignetes Fakultätsgebäude.
    Das Kinderbetreuungsproblem wäre mit abgedeckt, da direkt gegenüber, sowie zwei Straßen weiter jeweils eine Kindertagesstätte liegt.
    Des Weiteren viele kostenlose Parkplätze in der Umgebung und gute Bus- und Bahnanbindung.

    • hallo, hier geht es aber nicht nur um Eltern, deren Kinder in Krippen oder Kindergärten sind. Was ist mit jenen, die schulpflichtige Kinder haben und diese um 8:00 Uhr zur Schule bringen müssen? Der Zeitaufand ist immens, mal ganz abgesehen von den verpassten VL und Seminaren, da man weder immer pünktlich da sein könnte, noch immer bis zum Schluss aller Veranstaltungen bleiben Könnte!
      Was, wenn das familiäre und soziale Umfeld nicht in dem Maße gegeben ist, dass Mann/Frau sich es leisten kann diese Verantwortung abzugeben? Wo bitte ist das denn familienfreundliches studieren? Es wird immer viel geredet, aber wie so oft, in der Praxis nichts getan!!!
      Und was ist mit den Studenten, die ihr Studium und ihren Lebensunterhalt selbst bestreiten müssen!
      Für mich und für andere wird sich die Frage stellen, ob wir es uns weiter leisten können zu studieren und ob wir es leisten können den Anforderungen einer fundierten akademischen Bildung gerecht zu werden!

    • Auch ich bin gegen einen Umzug nach St. Ingbert!
      Eine Abschiebung aus der Landeshauptstadt Saarbrücken bedeutet für uns ALLE weniger Bildungs- und Lebensqualität!
      Ich selbst bin extra für das Studium nach Saarbrücken gezogen und arbeite nebenbei um mein Studium und meinen Lebensunterhalt zu finanzieren. Natürlich habe ich auch ein Privatleben und versuche alles in einem sehr engen Zeitraum zu bewältigen. Ein Umzug bedeutet für mich persönlich eine totale Umstellung meines Lebens, d.h. weniger Privatleben, keine Zeit für gesellschaftliches Engagement, weniger arbeiten, weniger Geld. Die Folgen wären nur noch Unzufriedenheit und kein erfolgreiches Studium.
      Abgesehen von meinen persönlichen Nachteilen wären viele andere Studierende so schwer von einem Umzug nach St. Ingbert betroffen, dass sie nicht weiter studieren könnten. Dazu kommt noch, dass unsere Fakultät der Sozialwissenschaften an Attraktivität verlieren würde und die Folgen wären viel weniger neue Studierende! Auch für viele Gastdozenten wäre St. Ingbert kein attraktiver Standort mehr, die jedes Semester eingeladen werden und uns sehr wichtige, interessante Vorträge an Abendvorlesungen anbieten.
      Die Fakultät der Sozialwissenschaften, mit Studierenden und Mitarbeitern, hätte durch den Umzug erhebliche Nachteile und das sollte nicht das Ziel unserer Hochschule sein, und auch nicht der Landesregierung.
      Für den Erhalt und der Verbesserung, der Qualität unserer Bildung, halte ich es für notwendig nach einer besseren Lösung in Saarbrücken Ausschau zu halten.

      • Oh I’m the worst. The most evil. I contract with my client who makes heart surgery diagnostic equipment that dares to improve pa#tsnte&i8217; lives, and I lack morals because I work hard for my client and try to deliver the best quality software possible. The only way I can continue to do work for them is by going ecorp* to ecorp (*Evil Corporation).

    • Huhudein Kärtchen ist wieder sooo schön gernideo…Vwntage ist eindeutig deine Richtung…..und ich bin mir sicher, dass sich jemand ganz arg freuen wird darüber!!lg dirVeronika

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